EAP 205: Turning Rubble to Diamonds – Mindset & Healing with Jo’mel Powell
In this moving episode of the Early Accountability Podcast, host Kimi Walker welcomes Jamal Powell, Christian rap artist turned author and motivational speaker. Jamal shares his deeply personal story chronicled in his book A Marriage Broken by Covid, taking listeners through the heartbreak and resilience his family experienced when the pandemic turned his world upside down. As Jamal recounts the separation and reconciliation in his marriage, the terrifying battle his wife faced with Covid-19, and the sudden demands of new fatherhood—all experienced amidst uncertainty and grief—he also traces how faith, persistence, and reframing hardship as opportunity became his most powerful tools.
Listeners will be inspired by Jamal’s “diamond mindset,” his commitment to turning pain into purpose, and how visibility and storytelling can foster healing. Jamal opens up about the practical and spiritual disciplines that helped him endure prolonged adversity and transform brokenness into renewed strength and deeper gratitude. This episode is a testament to the power of perseverance, the importance of social support, and never giving up, no matter how bleak life may seem—a radiant reminder that diamonds truly are forged under pressure.
Topics Covered in This Episode
- Turning loss and hardship into lessons of resilience and hope
- The transformative power of faith during times of crisis
- Embracing the “diamond mindset” to emerge stronger from adversity
- The role of accountability, visibility, and community in personal growth
- Practical spiritual and mindset disciplines for enduring tough times
- The importance of sharing your story to inspire and help others
About Jo’mel Williams Powell
Jo’mel Williams Powell is a Detroit-based author, speaker, and former gospel rap artist whose story is as powerful as it is redemptive. When his pregnant wife contracted COVID-19 in 2021, Jo’mel was suddenly thrust into single fatherhood as she remained in long-term care. Out of this life-altering hardship, he discovered what he calls the “Diamond Mindset”—a belief that life’s pressure can reveal hidden strength, purpose, and spiritual clarity. Today, Jo’mel shares his story to help others transform pain into power. He is the author of A Marriage Broken by COVID Produced Diamonds for You and speaks to audiences about resilience, faith, and healing through adversity.
Connect with Jo’mel Williams Powell
- Linktree (book, socials, and more): https://linktr.ee/AMarraigeBrokenCovid
- Instagram: @jomelwilliams
- Facebook: facebook.com/share/1A4EySpqzg
- TikTok: @diamondsforyou85
- Email: JomelWilliams85@gmail.com
Connect with Kimi Walker:
- Visit: earlyaccountability.com
- LinkedIn: Kimi Walker
- Facebook: Kimi Walker
- Instagram: Kimi Walker
- YouTube: Kimi Walker
Transcript
Okay, Kimi Walker here and welcome back to the next episode of the
Speaker:Early Accountability Podcast.
Speaker:Today we have a very special guest.
Speaker:We have Jomel, who has gone here and talked to us about his book,
Speaker:A Marriage Broken by COVID.
Speaker:He is going to talk about a loss that he experienced during COVID
Speaker:and tell us his personal story.
Speaker:He's gonna talk to us about transformation and how faith can help you in times that.
Speaker:I feel like a rubble and how we can turn those into diamonds with lessons of
Speaker:resilience per purpose and perseverance.
Speaker:So Jomel, first off, thank you for being here.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I wanna thank you for putting in so much effort to make this happen today.
Speaker:I appreciate that.
Speaker:No problem.
Speaker:Always happy to have guests here and I'm always excited and eager
Speaker:to showcase different stories.
Speaker:So you have wrote a book called A Marriage Broken by COVID.
Speaker:Why don't you first talk to us about, let's just talk about,
Speaker:becoming an author is a big thing, one that's a big accomplishment.
Speaker:You did that, but why don't you talk to us and just tell us about your background
Speaker:and what is the premise of your book?
Speaker:'cause I think you have a very moving story.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Like I say I'm born and raised in Detroit, Michigan in the city.
Speaker:We, in our city, it's a lot of, a lot of negative things that go on, a lot
Speaker:of the positive things that come on.
Speaker:So I actually was a product of my environment, like everything
Speaker:that goes on in the neighborhood.
Speaker:Like I was influenced by all those negative things.
Speaker:But at the age of 19 I just didn't feel comfortable no more.
Speaker:And I gave my life over to the Lord and became a Christian.
Speaker:And then when I became a Christian, I thought I had
Speaker:to stop doing music at first.
Speaker:I was really deep into writing music and rapping when I was a younger man.
Speaker:But when I got into church, I found out that I could do Christian
Speaker:rap music, so I got really deeply involved with Christian rap music.
Speaker:I was a part of a group called the Gideon Crew with their first two albums.
Speaker:And I was a part of a group called The Sons of Thunder in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker:I did two albums as well, and, during my last transition in life I got a,
Speaker:got away from the music a little bit.
Speaker:'cause music is just what was just always a part of me.
Speaker:But when I transitioned to this new season I looked up and next thing I
Speaker:know, I'm author, first time author due to the twist and turns of life brought
Speaker:me there, and my book of Marriage Broken by COVID is just about the struggle that
Speaker:me and my family went through and the trying times that we faced during COVID.
Speaker:I know a lot of people faced some trying times.
Speaker:We lost loved ones.
Speaker:Some of our lives changed and we're never the same again.
Speaker:And I just wanted to talk about my experience through the book.
Speaker:Take people with me on my journey through the bad.
Speaker:And then I wanted to also bring people to the point of hope and let people see the
Speaker:lessons that I learned and how did I keep my mind locked in and staying positive
Speaker:through all the dark times, so it's just about the lessons that I learned.
Speaker:During my struggle, the change of perspective, wisdom and enlightenment.
Speaker:Like I had to find a better way to look at things when I was going through the
Speaker:struggle and I thought about everybody when I was writing because I feel like
Speaker:a lot of people going through some things in life and they don't have the
Speaker:right perspective to look at it, and it makes people feel like there's no hope.
Speaker:So I wanted to use my story.
Speaker:To let people know how bad things got for me, but to let them know how to
Speaker:look at it, where they could still hope and they could still be positive.
Speaker:Not only survive, but to thrive.
Speaker:Yeah, why don't you tell us more about, so you talk a lot
Speaker:about turn to rubble overnight.
Speaker:And you said that happened to you in, you said your whole world turned to
Speaker:rubble basically overnight in 2021.
Speaker:Why don't you tell the audience what you mean by that?
Speaker:What happened?
Speaker:'Cause of course a lot of this is what came with the title of the
Speaker:book, A Marriage Broken by Covid
Speaker:Explain the situation, explain what happened give us, just a little bit
Speaker:more, more backdrop about that and what those steps look like for you
Speaker:after you experienced that event.
Speaker:When we first when everything first started going on me and my wife we
Speaker:were in a separation in our marriage.
Speaker:And I talk about the separation in chapter two of the book.
Speaker:We went through some rocky times, we separated, but when my daughter was
Speaker:conceived that was our motivation to get back together and work
Speaker:through our marriage problems.
Speaker:So we were really working hard at.
Speaker:Putting our marriage back together and getting our lives together
Speaker:to bring this new life in.
Speaker:And that's when everything hit us.
Speaker:Now, prior to this, like every, everything was going good for me.
Speaker:My money was going well my investment account was doing well, and I felt
Speaker:like I was in a good space in life.
Speaker:Me and my wife relationship seemed like it was going down a better path.
Speaker:We were communicating about.
Speaker:How we were going to make things work, how we were going to be good parents to our
Speaker:child, how we were gonna do this together.
Speaker:And then right when we got to that point she contracted COVID.
Speaker:And then when she contracted COVID, she ended up in the hospital,
Speaker:then she ended up in the hospital.
Speaker:They had to deliver my baby through C-section.
Speaker:And then my wife went to medically induced coma.
Speaker:And then from medically induced coma.
Speaker:My wife suffered an anoxic brain injury, and when she suffered the anoxic brain
Speaker:injury she was a medically induced coma for maybe like close to three weeks.
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:So
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:. It is just like everything.
Speaker:Was spiraling down lower and lower.
Speaker:And then when she finally woke up in the hospital she couldn't move, couldn't talk.
Speaker:Her arms were messed up her legs from the effects of the brain
Speaker:injury and things like that.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It was a trying time, because I had to be a father to my child with
Speaker:no experience while not knowing if my wife was gonna survive.
Speaker:Being in a situation that I've never been in before, it broke
Speaker:me and it made me feel weak.
Speaker:But one of my friends always told me like, in order to get
Speaker:stronger, you must first feel weak.
Speaker:So I went to God constantly.
Speaker:I fasted, I prayed, and he gave me the strength to get through those rocky
Speaker:and dark times, I had times where I felt like suicidal at certain points.
Speaker:Like when you get to a point in life where you feel like your whole world is
Speaker:crashing down and everything that means so much for you is like falling apart
Speaker:and your life is on shambles, it make you feel like you at the end of the road, but.
Speaker:Going to God is what gave me the strength.
Speaker:And as I was going through all of this stuff, I was documenting everything.
Speaker:Because in my mind I'm like, I wanna tell my story and I want to take people
Speaker:on my journey with me because I know something good is gonna come at the end.
Speaker:And, God didn't bless me in the ways that I was looking for him to bless me.
Speaker:He blessed me in ways of wisdom, giving me wisdom about life,
Speaker:giving me wisdom about suffering.
Speaker:Just helping me to become a better person through my struggles, more
Speaker:appreciative for the good times.
Speaker:Thank, thankful for the things that we take for granted, like activity
Speaker:of our limbs having our loved ones in they good health, actually
Speaker:having our loved ones like God.
Speaker:God blessed me in so many ways, but the biggest blessing that I
Speaker:got was to change as a person.
Speaker:Though my situation didn't change according to how I would've liked
Speaker:things to change, God changed me.
Speaker:He made me a better me, a stronger me.
Speaker:And in a lot of ways I'm glad God allowed me and my family to go through a struggle.
Speaker:'cause it made us a tighter unit and it made us get before him.
Speaker:And it just grew us up, it grew us up and matured us and I'm just thankful
Speaker:for that process, even though we still going through the process.
Speaker:I'm thankful for it because.
Speaker:There is a light at the end of the tunnel and there is hope.
Speaker:And that's just the message I wanna send to everybody because one of the things
Speaker:that I thought about is I wasn't the only one that experienced something tragic,
Speaker:we had people that lost their loved ones.
Speaker:I know many people who spouses health decline and.
Speaker:Never returned to their normal state, but they still able to live.
Speaker:They lives still able to enjoy life even though they've been hit in a
Speaker:devastating way and they got scars of life, they still able to live.
Speaker:So I seen a lot of the people still living.
Speaker:They've been through similar things to me and worse things to me, and that was
Speaker:my motivation to be like, you know what?
Speaker:I can still get up.
Speaker:Live as well.
Speaker:Like I don't have to always be down.
Speaker:I don't have to be depressed.
Speaker:And that's like the motivation in behind the whole book.
Speaker:Like keep going.
Speaker:Get up even though it's hurt,
Speaker:Serve God with what you have.
Speaker:Get up, keep going.
Speaker:Persevere.
Speaker:Don't stay down because when you stay down, like that's it, it's,
Speaker:no, it's nowhere you can go when you just give up and don't move.
Speaker:But.
Speaker:You can get up and move through adversity.
Speaker:I feel like that's what separates the weed from the tears.
Speaker:That's what separate the 99% from the 1%, the people that's able to push through
Speaker:and persevere, even through failure.
Speaker:Even through failure, like I found the better perspective about
Speaker:failure because failure is actually.
Speaker:The tool that brings us closer to success.
Speaker:Like when we look at it in the right way, I felt like I was a failure as a husband
Speaker:before, I felt like I was a failure as a steward over finances, but failure,
Speaker:when looked at in the right perspective is what brings you closer to success.
Speaker:So it's just, it is just a journey.
Speaker:It's a journey.
Speaker:You talk a lot about you talk about the diamond mindset and you emphasize
Speaker:a lot the struggle refines, right?
Speaker:What kind of consistent practices or disciplines have you put in place
Speaker:or did you implement when you were really broken and dealing with the
Speaker:prolonged challenges with your wife's health and raising your daughter?
Speaker:I.
Speaker:One of the things that constantly have to get done is, and for me,
Speaker:that constantly had to get done was getting before God because that
Speaker:motivation and that inspiration.
Speaker:Sometimes it comes and goes, so you gotta get back to God and get back.
Speaker:Charged up man, and continue on with the journey.
Speaker:Sometimes you get tired when you're dealing with struggles and when
Speaker:you dealing with hardships in life.
Speaker:I got tired many times.
Speaker:I wanted to give up many times, but I had to get before God and continue to get back
Speaker:up, it's something about perseverance.
Speaker:Perseverance through struggle.
Speaker:The diamond mindset that's not actually in the book, but that's
Speaker:a framework that I came up with.
Speaker:'Cause I'm in the process of becoming like a speaker right now.
Speaker:And the diamond mindset.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The diamond mindset is just a framework and the whole meaning of it is when
Speaker:you go through dark places and struggle and you feel like you overwhelmed.
Speaker:It's all about emerging from that, emerging from that
Speaker:wise or stronger illuminated.
Speaker:Not just illuminated, but illuminated by the word of God and illuminated
Speaker:by the spirit of God, like 'cause diamonds come from pressure.
Speaker:Is it.
Speaker:That's very true.
Speaker:That's very true.
Speaker:That's very true.
Speaker:So you are an author and a speaker and you've talked a lot
Speaker:about turning pain into purpose.
Speaker:What do you feel is so important for you when it comes to being visible about
Speaker:your transformation and your struggles?
Speaker:What is it that you hope to get from that and how does that being visible
Speaker:with your story, how does that help you with accountable to your own personal
Speaker:transformation and self-development?
Speaker:Like it's actually being visible and people like seeing me and
Speaker:hearing from me a little more often.
Speaker:It's a actual motivation to continue to go.
Speaker:It's an actual motivation to not fall by the wayside, we would, we, in a
Speaker:world that's full of distractions, full of temptations, but I want to
Speaker:continue to go, to be that person that people say that I was like this.
Speaker:But while he's doing that now, wow, he's visiting podcast now.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:He's going this place to speak.
Speaker:Wow, he's a light in this dark world.
Speaker:Like it's all about being saw and light, like the world is missing, saw and light.
Speaker:But I feel like being visible just makes you wanna stand on
Speaker:your word and stand on your truth.
Speaker:'Cause people is quick to point out your flaws and people is quick to
Speaker:point out your shortcomings, but if you consistent, it's nothing, nobody can say.
Speaker:Yeah, and that's one thing I, we really try to talk a lot about on the show
Speaker:or push or like kind of accountability circles or accountability groups
Speaker:or accountability partnerships.
Speaker:Some kind of way of being like accountable and visibility really is that, and
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:point that sometimes it is not even to just, I.
Speaker:There's not even just also that accountability piece, but that motivation
Speaker:piece because that keeps you going, like the energy of other people.
Speaker:And those social interactions are so important to our overall wellness.
Speaker:'Cause I try to talk about how we're like accountable in a lot of
Speaker:different domains of wellness, but that's social piece is important.
Speaker:We need that kind of connection to.
Speaker:Like you said on those days where it's just a bad day and it is just
Speaker:somebody said one little nice comment and it can, and they don't even know.
Speaker:It could be everything is crumbling, but just those things, you're still there.
Speaker:People are still looking for you, you're still, tuned in,
Speaker:tuned into you is very helpful.
Speaker:But also too you don't know how that mess message trickles out to those
Speaker:who may never speak up or may never say anything, but just may watch it.
Speaker:So Jamil, tell us a little bit about so tell us about the book, where we
Speaker:can find it, how the audience can get a copy of it, download it, the
Speaker:formats, where we can find it, and how they can stay connected with you.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:The the book is available on audio form, so you can get that on Audible.
Speaker:You can listen to it on Apple.
Speaker:What else?
Speaker:Spotify.
Speaker:Audiobook anywhere that audio books are available, all the major platforms and
Speaker:all of the smaller platforms is there.
Speaker:And I have a ebook on Amazon Kindle.
Speaker:So that's pretty dope.
Speaker:But I recommend checking out the audiobook because, the way it's set
Speaker:up is it's not what people would think so you might think you about to just
Speaker:listen to somebody read the audio book, but it got a little more surprise.
Speaker:It got some surprises in there here, and.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We have to check it out.
Speaker:But I'm definitely audio book, so I'm gonna definitely listen to the
Speaker:audio book version by the time this show comes out and be published.
Speaker:I will have my feedback in here, actually in the episode.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So that's.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:So yeah, I definitely will be getting the audio book and I
Speaker:suggest other people do it.
Speaker:I think it's great and it's read by you or it's narrated by you, it's your story.
Speaker:And I really I really enjoy hearing authors do their books, so I it's
Speaker:great and you can just listen to it a lot of different places.
Speaker:So Jomel
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:Yes, it's great.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:It, and guess what?
Speaker:It's only about an hour and a half long, so it
Speaker:it's not long at all.
Speaker:oh no, I got in and got out with it.
Speaker:Oh, good.
Speaker:Good for you.
Speaker:Good for you.
Speaker:A marriage broker by COVID, you gotta look it out.
Speaker:Wherever you are looking for audio books.
Speaker:We definitely suggest audio books.
Speaker:However you would like to have the written version while you're reading along too.
Speaker:Don't hesitate to get it off Kindle and Amazon and maybe do whispery.
Speaker:Jomel, why don't you tell us some words that you live by.
Speaker:What is a daily mantra that you use to guide yourself?
Speaker:Don't give up.
Speaker:Everything has come in my path, has come in my path that make me feel like where
Speaker:I'm trying to get in life is impossible.
Speaker:I'm talking about everything I'm talking about financial issues, or
Speaker:I'm talking about like building up yourself to a certain point and then
Speaker:something come to knock you back down.
Speaker:Don't give up.
Speaker:Don't give up.
Speaker:Stay persistent because.
Speaker:It's about, it's all about consistency and continuing to press and good
Speaker:things happen when you don't give up.
Speaker:That is, that's very true.
Speaker:It may not happen.
Speaker:Right there at that time.
Speaker:But they do definitely always happen.
Speaker:Do always come to fruition eventually.
Speaker:So Jomel again, audience Jomel, author of a Marriage Broker by COVID.
Speaker:Make sure to check it out.
Speaker:Jomel, thank you so much for bringing your story and your just wisdom when
Speaker:it comes to self-improvement and just navigating life difficulties
Speaker:and those unexpected curve balls.
Speaker:We really appreciate you being here on this show, and it's.
Speaker:You are welcome and into the audience.
Speaker:Until next time.