EAP 197: The Accountability Revolution - Robert Hunt on Redefining Success and Self-Leadership
In this uplifting episode of the Early Accountability Podcast, host Kimi Walker is joined by Robert J. Hunt, executive coach, peer group facilitator, and co-author of Nobody Cares Until You Do. Known as The Accountability Dude, Robert brings two decades of business coaching and leadership experience to the conversation, diving deep into the real meaning of accountability: owning your life, your choices, and your outcomes. Together, Kimi and Robert explore how accountability is often misunderstood as punishment, when in reality, it is a powerful pathway to freedom and transformation.
Robert shares compelling stories from his own journey, including the pivotal moment he and his wife chose to sell their home and pay off $90,000 in debt, a radical act of ownership that changed every area of their lives. He also introduces listeners to the Satisfaction Assessment, a free tool from NobodyCaresBook.com that helps individuals evaluate personal and professional fulfillment in key life areas. With heartfelt insights on faith, leadership, discipline, and the difference between busyness and true productivity, Robert inspires listeners to stop making excuses and start building the life they truly want. The path to change begins when you decide to own your story, because nobody cares until you do.
Topics Covered in This Episode:
- What true accountability means and how it empowers change
- How Robert and his wife paid off $90,000 in debt by owning their choices
- The difference between being busy and being productive
- Using the Satisfaction Assessment to pinpoint life and business gaps
- Why faith, leadership, and clarity drive lasting results
- Creating accountability through peer groups and supportive partnerships
About Robert Hunt
Robert J. Hunt is "The Accountability Dude" and the co-author of the book "Nobody Cares...until you do." He is a business owner in the Dallas/Fort Worth Texas area since 2008. Robert is an Executive Coach who runs CEO Groups in DFW since 2013 and he brings that experience and wisdom to help people reach their goals.
Robert has been married 27 years to his beautiful wife Kathy, and has two adult children also living in Texas. He is passionate about his faith, his purpose, his family and his quest to help people be their best.
Connect with Robert Hunt
- Website: https://nobodycaresbook.com
- Email: roberth@refdallas.com
Connect with Kimi Walker:
· Visit: earlyaccountability.com
· LinkedIn: Kimi Walker
· Facebook: Kimi Walker
· Instagram: Kimi Walker
· YouTube: Kimi Walker
Transcript
Kimi Walker here and welcome back to the next episode of the
Speaker:Early Accountability Podcast.
Speaker:Today we have a very special guest coming to the show that I'm very excited about.
Speaker:We are joined by Robert J. Hunt, who is known as.
Speaker:The accountability dude.
Speaker:He's an executive coach, co-author of the book.
Speaker:Nobody Cares Until You Do.
Speaker:And a Trusted Guide to CEO and business Leaders Navigating
Speaker:Overload, growth and Real Leadership.
Speaker:He's based in Dallas-Fort Worth.
Speaker:Robert brings over 20 years of experience in business coaching
Speaker:and community leadership.
Speaker:He leads CEO groups, coaches high performers, and helps people
Speaker:define success on their own terms.
Speaker:So let's dive into this powerful conversation about purpose.
Speaker:Overload and what it means to live accountable.
Speaker:Robert, first off, thank you.
Speaker:I think you have to be my first guest that's like in my
Speaker:realm of actual accountability.
Speaker:Who uses it and says it.
Speaker:It says the word accountability a lot.
Speaker:So I'm really excited.
Speaker:I was like, I can't wait for this.
Speaker:I have another accountability person
Speaker:a small community.
Speaker:It's a very small community of us.
Speaker:So
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But we're hoping to make it bigger.
Speaker:exactly.
Speaker:So why don't you tell the audience about you, your journey, how you
Speaker:got here, and what made you like, get into accountability too.
Speaker:It's what I do for a living.
Speaker:I run peer groups for business owners every month, and so I'm all
Speaker:about how do you create a world of accountability in your own life?
Speaker:And after watching people for years and years succeed or fail, I found the common
Speaker:element that was the different, the definition of the two was accountability.
Speaker:Those who owned accountability really did well.
Speaker:And they weren't perfect.
Speaker:They made all kinds of decisions that weren't great
Speaker:or had problems that come up.
Speaker:But at the end of the day, if we own everything in our lives, which is the
Speaker:definition of accountability, you own it.
Speaker:If you own it, you have the power to do something about it.
Speaker:And I've watched those people who had faced really big
Speaker:challenges own it and conquer it.
Speaker:And although it was hard, they came out on the other side with what they wanted.
Speaker:And I think people are just used to these days not understanding what
Speaker:accountability really looks like.
Speaker:Like even this morning, let's say you got up and you're running late to work.
Speaker:You get in the car and you're driving and you're booking to get
Speaker:to work, why are you late to work?
Speaker:The alarm didn't go off.
Speaker:That's not the alarm's fault you said it.
Speaker:The alarm doesn't work for you.
Speaker:And you know if the alarm is not working, that's your deal.
Speaker:And then you decide to stop and check your Facebook page really quick.
Speaker:'cause you put something on marketplace and you got distracted.
Speaker:That's a picture of a cat on water skis.
Speaker:And next thing it's a half an hour later and then you run out the door, you're
Speaker:driving, and now you're late for work.
Speaker:And when you get there, you walk in and you go, man, traffic was horrible.
Speaker:Man, don't blame traffic.
Speaker:That's 'cause you were late 'cause you didn't get outta the house on time.
Speaker:So we make excuses, we blame and then everyone's mad 'cause you made
Speaker:us wait for the meeting to start.
Speaker:And then you make excuses.
Speaker:Why are we having a meeting in the morning anyway?
Speaker:We shouldn't even go over this stuff.
Speaker:Everybody already knows this.
Speaker:So this kind of ripple effect of what happens when we don't take
Speaker:accountability in our lives.
Speaker:It affects our attitude, our relationships, our joy in life, and then
Speaker:we live as victims instead of really what it could be, which is a victorious life.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:A hundred percent yes.
Speaker:So I was just like, oh, that's great.
Speaker:This is so good.
Speaker:So well first tell us, how did you get to become the accountability dude?
Speaker:How did you get the title?
Speaker:Oh, I named myself accountability, dude.
Speaker:There's an accountability guy in Australia and I didn't wanna ruffle
Speaker:feathers, so I'm like he's a guy.
Speaker:I'll be a dude.
Speaker:And I grew up in Southern California, so dude was the word I used anyway.
Speaker:And even in Texas here we, we do, we still call people dudes.
Speaker:I wanted to be approachable.
Speaker:I hang with business owners and CEOs all day long, but I'm just an average guy.
Speaker:I make mistakes.
Speaker:I live my life to do the best I can.
Speaker:God's been very kind to me.
Speaker:My whole life and I wanna be approachable, so I just thought maybe I'd just be a
Speaker:dude instead of the executive professor or some kind of name that made people
Speaker:feel like I was smarter than that.
Speaker:I'm not.
Speaker:I still struggle with accountability all the time.
Speaker:I still have issues in my life where I, but I see it.
Speaker:I see it quick.
Speaker:I go, okay, I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker:That's not owning it.
Speaker:And I've changed my life because of this awareness.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So I do wanna ask you a question that I even ask myself or
Speaker:think of when I look at things.
Speaker:Some people think accountability is tied to discipline or punishment or,
Speaker:Punishment.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:What do you say to that?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We do think it's a punitive term, but it really is power and freedom
Speaker:when you try, and one of the principles you have to understand is
Speaker:nobody can hold anyone accountable.
Speaker:can create a world where I want to be accountable, but it's totally up to me.
Speaker:Hey Kimi, I'm gonna lose weight.
Speaker:I'm gonna work out five days a week and I'm not gonna eat donuts anymore.
Speaker:And then you go, great.
Speaker:I'll hold you accountable.
Speaker:Then you call me the next day.
Speaker:How does it go?
Speaker:Do you go to the gym?
Speaker:Yeah, I did.
Speaker:I went to the gym and I could lie to you, you would not know unless you babysat me.
Speaker:And then at the end of the week, I gained two pounds.
Speaker:And you're like, Hey, what happened?
Speaker:I only went to the donut store once, which is, I went there five
Speaker:times, and so at the end of the day, nobody can hold you accountable.
Speaker:You can't hold your employees accountable because they could lie to you.
Speaker:And besides, you wanna run around trying to babysit everyone or be in the
Speaker:task master who makes people behave.
Speaker:You want to create a world where people want to be accountable, and
Speaker:I want to be accountable because I understand that at the other
Speaker:side of accountability is freedom.
Speaker:If I don't like something in my life and I own it, I can fix it.
Speaker:My wife and I owed $90,000 in debt
Speaker:Woo.
Speaker:didn't include the house or the cars.
Speaker:And every year it didn't start at 90, it went at five and then 20.
Speaker:And then the, you know, after five years of struggling to get
Speaker:my business where I wanted to, and we just kept spending money.
Speaker:And then telling the government I owe you.
Speaker:I'll pay you next year.
Speaker:It got bigger and bigger.
Speaker:And then finally in 2019, we looked at each other and we said,
Speaker:we're not living the life we want.
Speaker:And we're miserable and we're fighting about stuff.
Speaker:We're angry at God.
Speaker:We're angry at each other.
Speaker:We're angry at the world.
Speaker:Why don't we just own this crap and start over?
Speaker:And so we had a house.
Speaker:It had equity.
Speaker:So why don't we sell the house and start over?
Speaker:And we did.
Speaker:We did just that.
Speaker:We sold our home.
Speaker:We downsized.
Speaker:We moved into this house that we rent today.
Speaker:And we paid off every penny.
Speaker:We owed everybody and we were debt free and it was a huge change.
Speaker:But the piece it brought in my life was remarkable.
Speaker:I worried about making minimum payments on my credit cards.
Speaker:I worried about losing a client 'cause I would not have enough
Speaker:money to function and pay our bills.
Speaker:I worried about my relationship with my wife because I felt like I constantly
Speaker:said, stop spending money on that.
Speaker:Why are you buying that?
Speaker:We need groceries.
Speaker:Things like that.
Speaker:And it was so extreme.
Speaker:And so I got to a place where I really realized I have all the power in the
Speaker:world if I just am truly accountable.
Speaker:And that's what changed my business, that changed my marriage, it changed my health.
Speaker:Everything has got better because I own it.
Speaker:You could probably, oh, okay.
Speaker:So you have a good topic.
Speaker:I really wanna actually wanna talk about what do you, so early accountability
Speaker:we're oh, the beginning stages of a change, a pivot, a new endeavor, whether
Speaker:it's personally or professionally.
Speaker:What do you recommend for people who feel like they have plateaued in this?
Speaker:To area where they would like to see improvement or a change or a shift,
Speaker:like how you and your wife did.
Speaker:Okay, the day you said, Hey, we're gonna do this.
Speaker:That's, like you said.
Speaker:Okay, so of course we're gonna eat it bite by bite, but that is a lot.
Speaker:So what do you,
Speaker:There's no Dave Ramsey plan to get out of a $90,000 debt.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Look the best.
Speaker:The first thing to do is start over and start and taking
Speaker:the satisfaction assessment.
Speaker:Go onto our website@nobodycaresbook.com and for free.
Speaker:You could take the satisfaction assessment and then be honest.
Speaker:Really honest.
Speaker:Like when you look at your health if, and I'm like 25 pounds overweight.
Speaker:I'm acknowledging it, it's real.
Speaker:But I'm not like I look great.
Speaker:Don't I know you?
Speaker:You know you're overweight.
Speaker:Be honest with yourself, and maybe your marriage isn't what you thought
Speaker:it would be when you first got married.
Speaker:Or maybe raising kids isn't what you thought it would be.
Speaker:Really be honest with yourself.
Speaker:Where are you not satisfied?
Speaker:And then ask yourself why.
Speaker:And when you find yourself blaming or making excuses or saying you can't
Speaker:do anything about it, or just waiting to hope it gets better somehow,
Speaker:that's a trap that a victim plays.
Speaker:And that's not accountability.
Speaker:So you can take the assessment and you can see, am I making excuses?
Speaker:Am I blaming anywhere?
Speaker:Am I just saying I can't make it any better?
Speaker:That's a trap, and that's the starting point to saying, I want to get better and
Speaker:you can own it and do something about it.
Speaker:Okay, so now I took the assessment and maybe it's a little bit of a. If you say
Speaker:it, I always tell people, we can't conquer what we won't confess or confront, so
Speaker:we're gonna share it just so people can see the, those who are watching like the
Speaker:video can kind see what this looks like.
Speaker:'cause I think it's important.
Speaker:Some things you just gotta visualize.
Speaker:You just have to see.
Speaker:Maybe we can pick me apart and see, give me some live coaching.
Speaker:And for those who are listening and can't see this, we've got
Speaker:two little pie chart wheels.
Speaker:On the left side is personal satisfaction.
Speaker:On the right side is business because they're both important.
Speaker:If I'm having a miserable life, I show up at work, miserable, and if I
Speaker:hate my job, I bring it home with me.
Speaker:And so it's important that we take the time to be honest about both categories.
Speaker:But at the start, one of the things we can recognize is these wheels are not round.
Speaker:If I had a car that had a wheel shape like this, I'd be driving down the
Speaker:road, bouncing everywhere, and crashing.
Speaker:So what we want to do is start by acknowledging that maybe we're
Speaker:putting too much effort into one area and not enough effort into another.
Speaker:If your technology is doing fantastic, but your finances are bad, then you've
Speaker:gotta start putting money towards things that are generating more revenue.
Speaker:If you're having a great time enjoying time with friends and hanging
Speaker:out, but your financial problem.
Speaker:Your finances is under where you want it to be then you need to go back and
Speaker:start figuring out cheaper ways to hang with your friends and have fun.
Speaker:You have choices to make, to bring up one of the levels of satisfaction, maybe
Speaker:at the expense of lowering another one down, not to make your life miserable.
Speaker:I think I'll just be unhappy with my growth, but I, if you're not having the
Speaker:marriage relationship you want, then you've gotta invest some time in that.
Speaker:And that's where you make a choice.
Speaker:Life is all about choices.
Speaker:My clients run companies, they're very busy people, but you can't do it all.
Speaker:And if at some point you decide, what do I really want in life?
Speaker:And I think this assessment's a great place to step back
Speaker:and be honest with yourself.
Speaker:Okay, so based on, so we have my chart pulled up.
Speaker:So I don't know, what would you say to me based off of what in my results?
Speaker:So we have pulled up my personal satisfaction results and my
Speaker:business satisfaction results.
Speaker:And I know you said it should be round
Speaker:. Yeah,
Speaker:And mine's not completely round.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:If you look at yours particularly, you've got product or service
Speaker:that you value really low and your management is really low.
Speaker:So what would it take to get those things to be higher?
Speaker:What would be some of the issues that you'd want to go fix?
Speaker:Maybe we don't have the time to dig in to get the answer right now, but you
Speaker:would know what is it that I'm not doing?
Speaker:To develop the product or service I want, or the management that I need
Speaker:to have, or even from a sales and marketing perspective, so you can
Speaker:prioritize those in your efforts.
Speaker:Like for us, our number one issue we were unhappy with was our finances, but we
Speaker:were also frustrated with our marriage.
Speaker:We were angry at God that he wasn't fixing all of our problems.
Speaker:We were frustrated with our relationships.
Speaker:There was certainly no growth and but we had to think,
Speaker:where do we want to go first?
Speaker:And there's a ripple effect in doing something that you should do.
Speaker:When we got our finances in line, we looked at our marriage different.
Speaker:When we were no longer in debt, we could enjoy life and not
Speaker:and breathe a sigh of relief.
Speaker:We didn't have any more money than we had when we were broke,
Speaker:but we didn't owe any money.
Speaker:So the stress was gone, and I could think clearly, I can make better decisions in
Speaker:my work relationships, and my business took off because my attitude was one of.
Speaker:Of success and abundance instead of fear and worry.
Speaker:And so they're related to each other, but you can make a decision how to
Speaker:prioritize your work in one area and it will ripple effect into other areas.
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:I think that, and actually that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker:So I know I know, like right now I'm, I've been looking into bringing in
Speaker:more things with, or working on it actively, like bringing in more things
Speaker:with operations and like looking at how I do management, so I think
Speaker:when I really went in full force management is actually a full-time job.
Speaker:It's, it actually takes a lot, like managing personnel is a lot.
Speaker:It is a whole another job, like it really is.
Speaker:And so I think that was something I , wasn't maybe as prepared for
Speaker:when it comes to having multiple team members or a lot of different things.
Speaker:You're like, wait, this is a lot training
Speaker:and let me encourage you that what I've learned is that you don't manage people.
Speaker:You manage a process.
Speaker:You lead people.
Speaker:And so if you've got people that are struggling to get.
Speaker:Get things done or not doing what you want 'em to do, that's 'cause
Speaker:you're not leading them well.
Speaker:And you have to have a very clear vision of where you're going, how
Speaker:we're gonna do it, what's the attitude?
Speaker:We're gonna do it with those kinds of principles that are important,
Speaker:and then let them go do their job.
Speaker:But if you haven't articulated how we're supposed to do things, what we're focused
Speaker:on, why we're focused on these things, no wonder they're not performing well.
Speaker:You can't stand over their shoulder and say, no, that was wrong.
Speaker:That was wrong.
Speaker:You know that is, that's managing by correction.
Speaker:Great leaders cast an exciting vision for their team to follow
Speaker:and then get out of the way.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And it needs to be clear and written down,
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:So people can follow it.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:So it, this makes per perfect sense and I do, even just looking at mine with
Speaker:even on the business side, seeing the product or service the management low
Speaker:and the sales and marketing as far as financial, all those intertwined to me.
Speaker:I think, like you say, we work on one.
Speaker:I can see how the other ones will improve as.
Speaker:Being more laser focused on
Speaker:And if you get anything to a 10, then you probably are not challenging yourself.
Speaker:If your tech is at a 10 and you think you're done, what else could you be doing?
Speaker:What else could you be doing if you had another thing to work on?
Speaker:For example, if I'm super excited about email, like I learned
Speaker:how to do email well, but how much time is wasted on email?
Speaker:Maybe I could put in some commands that move them into spam folders,
Speaker:or I could put in some commands that highlight the one important
Speaker:so I don't go through on my emails.
Speaker:Maybe I can build some other.
Speaker:System that actually AI reviews, the emails that come in and decide to prior.
Speaker:There's more things they can do in the tech area or whatever
Speaker:area you think you've mastered.
Speaker:You have not.
Speaker:There is more to do, more efficient, better use, bigger results.
Speaker:There's always something we can get better at.
Speaker:Yeah, I think, yeah, definitely.
Speaker:I know that especially with technology, I find myself.
Speaker:Totally comfortable with technology or learning some portions of new
Speaker:technology, but right now is I'm always interested in, I'm always learning.
Speaker:And one, I think this comes in accountability.
Speaker:Just you can become an over learner.
Speaker:Like always gotta learn something new.
Speaker:Always gotta have the newest.
Speaker:Thing or what have you.
Speaker:Shiny object syndrome.
Speaker:But my biggest one with technology now is okay, we need to get
Speaker:some of this stuff automated.
Speaker:'cause if I'm having to separately go do this separately, go do that set.
Speaker:Wait another thing, here's a whole another job.
Speaker:But how can these systems intertwine?
Speaker:Because what ends up, same thing.
Speaker:It becomes a whole another job of manually doing this or going over here to do
Speaker:that and going, so you really start to look at, hey also too, what's needed?
Speaker:What's, what do I need?
Speaker:Minimal viable, like what?
Speaker:Do I really have to have all of this?
Speaker:Is it just the bells and whistle?
Speaker:Is this a shiny object syndrome or is this a core need that can
Speaker:improve or enhance something?
Speaker:Or like you said, or am I gonna get just too drowned in this, that
Speaker:it's not, worth it at the end.
Speaker:tend to put a lot of time into things we enjoy or that we're good at.
Speaker:But there's a fit for use application that says, that's good enough
Speaker:Get off of that and let's go work on the things that are struggling to survive.
Speaker:Because if you like it, you'll spend more and more time on it.
Speaker:Oh, AI is so fun, so cute, so exciting.
Speaker:And you'll just learn and learn.
Speaker:But hey, your whole business is struggling.
Speaker:You're not getting any orders and you're losing money, but
Speaker:you're learning a lot about ai, so you have to really be careful.
Speaker:Don't allow yourself to go into something that's just fun or sexy or exciting.
Speaker:Put your plan together.
Speaker:Be in a discipline to, to follow what you've committed to do.
Speaker:And again, back to accountability.
Speaker:Invite people into your journey to say, here's where I'm gonna go.
Speaker:This is what I'm gonna work on.
Speaker:And then review it against them.
Speaker:So they go, wait, you said you'd be having this level of sales by now.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:What have you been doing?
Speaker:I've been learning ai.
Speaker:I am really excited about, Hey, that's not moving the needle.
Speaker:You're not making any money.
Speaker:And so you have to be able to have a plan and then share it with someone
Speaker:else that's creating accountability.
Speaker:They won't babysit you or make you do it, but they'll be peer
Speaker:pressure to make you wanna do it.
Speaker:'cause they're gonna ask you.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And you bring a point I wanted to talk about.
Speaker:So the intertwining of accountability and productivity or busyness, I think we're
Speaker:in the, everybody is super, really busy.
Speaker:And how do you help people with being able to be self-aware of.
Speaker:The difference between productivity and accountability
Speaker:I think the bit the difference, or we'd focus on it between productivity and busy.
Speaker:Because accountability is how you handle those two.
Speaker:Busy.
Speaker:Busy is a busy, is a new stupid.
Speaker:And people love to say though, how busy I was.
Speaker:Oh, I worked till 11 o'clock last night.
Speaker:Oh, I worked on Saturday.
Speaker:It's a badge of honor.
Speaker:Look, if you can't do your job Monday through Friday, nine to
Speaker:five, you're not good at it.
Speaker:Or there's a problem with
Speaker:in the system.
Speaker:Yeah, you have too much on you.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There's there something's wrong.
Speaker:You create a world, you don't, no one.
Speaker:I know all of my clients who own their own businesses.
Speaker:No, none of 'em want someone first thing in the morning, staying late at night,
Speaker:ignoring their family, burning the candle.
Speaker:They don't want that.
Speaker:They want them to go home.
Speaker:They want them to be at their kids' baseball game.
Speaker:They want to be able to take vacations because they want to keep 'em.
Speaker:And if you get burned out, you're not any good.
Speaker:You're angry.
Speaker:You're bitter at the world, you're rude to people.
Speaker:You're not fun to be around.
Speaker:So we, as leaders, we want you to have a life.
Speaker:So being busy is not right.
Speaker:You need to be focused when you have prioritization.
Speaker:You know what you want to work on, and then you stay focused on that.
Speaker:You get the results you want, but having someone sit at their cubicle
Speaker:for eight hours and then go home doesn't mean they did anything all day.
Speaker:It's really where we communicate what's important and we prioritize against that.
Speaker:And what do you, so looking at the will, is that what you would say would be
Speaker:a good guide to see what areas people looking at your results, will, this
Speaker:is what you could or should prioritize
Speaker:Yeah, you could.
Speaker:Again, it's your life.
Speaker:You could do whatever you wanna do with the results of this.
Speaker:But let's say I look and I say, look, sales is really low.
Speaker:If I don't get sales, I'm gonna be out of business.
Speaker:So that's my number one focus.
Speaker:So how do I let tech just leave it alone?
Speaker:It's fine.
Speaker:Whatever you got is good enough fit for years, then I'll go work on my sales.
Speaker:Then when the sales is up, it'll be easier to manage.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:Because everyone will be busy.
Speaker:They'll be doing stuff I won't have to be worried about.
Speaker:What can I have you do?
Speaker:And things are down.
Speaker:I don't.
Speaker:We have a cadence and we have some consistency.
Speaker:We can scale and get better.
Speaker:So focusing on sales may be the way to go do that.
Speaker:Or maybe it's cashflow.
Speaker:Maybe we don't have enough inventory.
Speaker:Therefore, when people call to order stuff, we can't deliver.
Speaker:So we're losing
Speaker:Find out where that number one thing needs to be done and then focus on that.
Speaker:Same thing with your personal life.
Speaker:Listen, if my marriage is in the toilet, it doesn't matter how much money I have
Speaker:in the bank, or it doesn't matter how much time I spend with the kids, if me
Speaker:and my wife are fighting all the time, it affects how I look at everything in life.
Speaker:I also go to work in a bad mood 'cause they had a big fight
Speaker:with my wife in the morning.
Speaker:You have to look at what the effect of different things will be and
Speaker:prioritize and you'll know by looking at 'em, where will I get the
Speaker:biggest ripple effect in my life?
Speaker:It's a, in nature, they call it a trophic cascade.
Speaker:Look up the videos, the video about the wolves of Yellowstone.
Speaker:And when they reintroduce the wolves in Yellowstone, it changed
Speaker:the entire dynamic of the valley.
Speaker:And so I'm telling you, there's something in your life that will be
Speaker:the ripple effect of everything else.
Speaker:Could be your faith, it could be something about relationships,
Speaker:and that's where you start.
Speaker:You start with the thing that you believe will have the biggest effect on your life.
Speaker:How has faith shaped you in how you approach just like
Speaker:business and leadership?
Speaker:Or just a general, like personal accountability.
Speaker:Yeah I'm accountable as a Christ follower.
Speaker:I'm accountable to God.
Speaker:Someday I will stand before him in heaven and I will be
Speaker:accountable for the life I live.
Speaker:I'm not accountable to anyone else on the face of this earth.
Speaker:Unless I want to be, I'm not accountable to my wife.
Speaker:She has her own life.
Speaker:I love my wife.
Speaker:I honor my life, but the one person I'm accountable to is God.
Speaker:So how I treat my employees, how I spend my money, how I spend my time,
Speaker:how I talk to my clients, how I raise my children, how I care for my neighbors,
Speaker:all that stuff I'm accountable for.
Speaker:The problem is we get so poorly managed in our own life.
Speaker:That we don't have the bandwidth to care for anybody except ourselves.
Speaker:We are not healthy with our time.
Speaker:We're not healthy with our bodies.
Speaker:We're not healthy with our calendars or our money.
Speaker:There's no room to be available for anyone else, including God.
Speaker:All you gotta do is just take care of you and you barely do that.
Speaker:So because of my faith and because of the calling that God has called me to
Speaker:live a life that will give him a good return, I am intentionally living the
Speaker:life that I really want to give him the best opportunity of interrupting whatever
Speaker:plans I might have to be used by him because I am gonna be accountable to him.
Speaker:Oh, that's really good.
Speaker:That's awesome.
Speaker:So Robert, tell us more.
Speaker:How can the audience find out more about you?
Speaker:Follow you.
Speaker:I know we have Nobody Cares book.
Speaker:Definitely gotta check it out dot.com.
Speaker:And also too, that's where the satisfaction assessment is at.
Speaker:But tell the audience a little bit more about how they can stay connected
Speaker:to you and you know where to find
Speaker:Yeah, I'm a business guy, so I'm on LinkedIn.
Speaker:If you do the business side, go to LinkedIn.
Speaker:I don't really do Facebook.
Speaker:That's like my grandma's old social media, so I'm not in that anymore.
Speaker:I think right now, if I can do one, I'm happy with it.
Speaker:I go to my website though.
Speaker:Go to nobodycaresbook.com and get a copy of the book, fill out the satisfaction
Speaker:assessment, and then share it with me.
Speaker:Send me an email saying.
Speaker:Here's my satisfaction assessment.
Speaker:Here's what I'm gonna work on.
Speaker:I read every single email that comes in and we answer every one of 'em because
Speaker:we're looking to build a community of people who will be vulnerable
Speaker:and honest about their journey.
Speaker:So we can encourage each other, and that's what I want to do.
Speaker:I want to walk the journey with you, so go get the book from us.
Speaker:It's available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble and all that stuff but if
Speaker:you get it from us, then we can be, we can have you on our list and we
Speaker:can update you when there's workshops going on or other activities,
Speaker:and we want to hear your story.
Speaker:Now how about, if the owner is looking at, so how do your peer groups work?
Speaker:The peer groups that you work for in business?
Speaker:Yeah, we meet every month and we work together to create
Speaker:a world of accountability.
Speaker:We come in, we talk about our challenges as a business owner or a leader.
Speaker:In most cases, they're the final decision maker of the company, president, CEO,
Speaker:general manager, those kinds of roles.
Speaker:And we talk about what are the challenges we face, and no
Speaker:one tells anyone what to do.
Speaker:We just listen to each other and say here's what I did
Speaker:and this is what I learned.
Speaker:And then you decide.
Speaker:But then when you decide, you say, okay, here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker:I'm gonna do this.
Speaker:And then 30 days later when we all get back together again, we go, how'd it go?
Speaker:So there's peer pressure for you to do it, but you create the accountability.
Speaker:You say what you're gonna do and then you own it.
Speaker:And now if you need help, there's 12 other people in the room who'll
Speaker:go, Hey, how can I help you?
Speaker:What do you wanna do?
Speaker:You want me to come by the office and watch you do it?
Speaker:You want me to send some of my people over
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:you?
Speaker:But at the end of the day, it's your journey and we're just there
Speaker:to watch and celebrate with you.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:How awesome.
Speaker:That's I really like it.
Speaker:I'm gonna check that out because I, I think it's definitely it is, one thing
Speaker:I say too, or I preached here a lot on the show, is there's so much power
Speaker:in finding people who are working on similar goals like yours because they
Speaker:can just understand stuff a lot easier,
Speaker:yeah, there's a lot of nice motivation and strength and momentum when you're
Speaker:with people in the same journey.
Speaker:Absolutely that it, it makes a huge thing.
Speaker:It's a huge thing.
Speaker:And sometimes there's too some things that when we're people who are around us,
Speaker:our day to day, you know, like spouse, loved ones who may not understand to
Speaker:the same extent, who are still there.
Speaker:And then too, I think too I always talk about just kinda like dumping.
Speaker:So it gives some space for I think some of the others around us too,
Speaker:where you have that soundboard who's going through similar stuff.
Speaker:So I definitely see a lot of benefits in that.
Speaker:I'm always telling people, find a group.
Speaker:or make one.
Speaker:If you can't find one, start one.
Speaker:Or even a partner.
Speaker:I've done, I've honestly made some of the biggest strides in my business
Speaker:when I was actually meeting with an accountability partner, like a one-on-one,
Speaker:just less schedules, less this,
Speaker:but, there's still the power in that.
Speaker:Even if you don't have oh, I have to have a group.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be a group.
Speaker:It could be one person.
Speaker:Or anything.
Speaker:As long as you're truly honest and vulnerable with them, it works.
Speaker:But if you meet with someone and you say they're your accountability partner,
Speaker:and it takes the pressure off of you to do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker:' cause you think I'm accountable.
Speaker:I meet with someone.
Speaker:But if you don't tell 'em the truth and you don't own up to what you're
Speaker:supposed to do, it doesn't work.
Speaker:So Robert, tell us tell us a mantra you live by, or some words that
Speaker:you go by in your daily life.
Speaker:Besides all the stuff we talked about on accountability, the one that I'm really
Speaker:focused on these days is don't be lazy.
Speaker:I feel like we've, we don't even recognize it, but we've become content to do okay.
Speaker:And I think we live in America.
Speaker:We're blessed, we're rich.
Speaker:We have so many blessings.
Speaker:And just look around the world at what's going on every day, and
Speaker:you realize how good you got it.
Speaker:And so press yourself.
Speaker:Try harder, care more.
Speaker:Get off your butt and do something, the laziest easy denominators.
Speaker:Go to work, sit on your butt, watch TV and eat food and then reach
Speaker:and repeat over and over again.
Speaker:But man, there's a whole neighborhood full of people that
Speaker:don't have anyone to care for them.
Speaker:And there's a whole community of people who could use
Speaker:someone who sticks up for 'em.
Speaker:And there's always an opportunity to care for the people you work with.
Speaker:So be the person who models what you want to see in the world.
Speaker:Don't be lazy, get out there and do something.
Speaker:So Robert, thank you so much for being a guest on the Early Accountability
Speaker:podcast To the audience, make sure to go to nobodycares book.com.
Speaker:In addition to getting the book, go ahead and click on Do
Speaker:the Satisfaction Assessment.
Speaker:It's under what tab is it again, under
Speaker:is under resourced, but it's actually in the book too.
Speaker:Okay, it's in the book.
Speaker:And on the, if you're on the website, it's resources tab, it will take
Speaker:you directly to the assessment.
Speaker:But if you get the book, you're gonna have all of it in there, download it,
Speaker:email the results, so Robert and his team can help you stay accountable.
Speaker:What a great step.
Speaker:Great step forward to just look overall and a lot of different dimensions and
Speaker:domains like I talk about looking in a more holistic or wellness based approach.
Speaker:I think that is awesome and thank you so much.
Speaker:I finally got an accountability person.
Speaker:I'm so excited.
Speaker:I really is so happy that accountability dude came up my podcast.
Speaker:I can't think of a better guess I ever had on my show.
Speaker:So thank you so much to the audience.
Speaker:Until next time.
